Comments on: Find out if your ISP is a bad ISP with Glasnost http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/01/28/find-out-if-your-isp-is-a-bad-isp-with-glasnost/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=find-out-if-your-isp-is-a-bad-isp-with-glasnost Citywide WiFi, smart grid, enterprise wireless, public safety, mobile apps Sun, 12 Feb 2012 01:38:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: wildbluecustomer http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/01/28/find-out-if-your-isp-is-a-bad-isp-with-glasnost/#comment-37953 wildbluecustomer Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:17:59 +0000 http://www.muniwireless.com/?p=9900#comment-37953 You left out wildblue sattelite internet. I've been a customer for going on a year now and i knew from the start i was gettin sc#%@!*. I purchased a brand new emachine (don't laugh) and signed a contract with wildblue for their silver package $50.00 month (512kb download & 128 upload) and i noticed almost immediately there was something wrong. The downloads start out around 100kb and quickly drop to around 30. I filed a complaint with Dishnetwork (the people i recieve wildblue through) and they sent someone to examine the prob and he noticed my claim was true. To make a long story short, several calls and a BBB complaint later, they accuse my BRAND NEW computer to be the problem. Since i didn't purchase service directly from wildblue they (wildblue) wouldn't return my calls. I know what you're thinking why didn't i just go with another ISP? THERE IS NO FREAKING OTHER ISP IN MY AREA! MEANWHILE, i'm stuck with a 18 month contract. no viruses...no malware...no spyware...just a really slow connection that i'm overpaying for. You left out wildblue sattelite internet.
I’ve been a customer for going on a year now and i knew from the start i was gettin sc#%@!*. I purchased a brand new emachine (don’t laugh) and signed a contract with wildblue for their
silver package $50.00 month (512kb download & 128
upload) and i noticed almost immediately there was something wrong. The downloads start out around 100kb and quickly drop to around 30. I filed a complaint with Dishnetwork (the people i recieve wildblue through) and they sent someone to examine the prob and he noticed my claim was true. To make a long story short, several calls and a BBB complaint later, they accuse my BRAND NEW computer to be the problem. Since i didn’t purchase service directly from wildblue they (wildblue) wouldn’t return my calls. I know what you’re thinking why didn’t i just go with another ISP? THERE IS NO FREAKING OTHER ISP IN MY AREA! MEANWHILE, i’m stuck with a 18 month contract. no viruses…no malware…no spyware…just a really slow connection that i’m overpaying for.

]]> By: ManyMedia » Is Your ISP Evil? http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/01/28/find-out-if-your-isp-is-a-bad-isp-with-glasnost/#comment-37650 ManyMedia » Is Your ISP Evil? Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:56:56 +0000 http://www.muniwireless.com/?p=9900#comment-37650 [...] has a post called Find out if your ISP is a bad ISP with Glasnost in which author Esme Vos asks if your ISP is “playing funny games” with your Internet [...] [...] has a post called Find out if your ISP is a bad ISP with Glasnost in which author Esme Vos asks if your ISP is “playing funny games” with your Internet [...]

]]> By: F2C: Freedom to Connect » Blog Archive » Is Your ISP Evil? http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/01/28/find-out-if-your-isp-is-a-bad-isp-with-glasnost/#comment-37647 F2C: Freedom to Connect » Blog Archive » Is Your ISP Evil? Sat, 31 Jan 2009 07:49:24 +0000 http://www.muniwireless.com/?p=9900#comment-37647 [...] partner and speaker Esme Vos has a post on MuniWireless called Find out if your ISP is a bad ISP with Glasnost in which she asks if your ISP is “playing funny games” with your Internet connection. [...] [...] partner and speaker Esme Vos has a post on MuniWireless called Find out if your ISP is a bad ISP with Glasnost in which she asks if your ISP is “playing funny games” with your Internet connection. [...]

]]> By: Sascha Meinrath http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/01/28/find-out-if-your-isp-is-a-bad-isp-with-glasnost/#comment-37642 Sascha Meinrath Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:57:52 +0000 http://www.muniwireless.com/?p=9900#comment-37642 Brett, Here's how to get the source Code for the Glastnos application: You can download the source code of our testing tool as a tarball or via anonymous SVN: * You can download the latest version of Glasnost here: glasnost-1.2.tgz * The latest version of our Glasnost tool is always available from anonymous SVN. You can check it out using the following command: svn checkout https://svn.mpi-sb.mpg.de/NS/glasnost/ This will create a directory called glasnost and fill it with the Glasnost source code. We are interested in your feedback. If you want to report a bug or contribute a patch, please contact us. *** All tools on the http://www.MeasurementLab.net platform are open source -- we want people to be able to look under the hood, make improvements and add functionality. For detractors who state that they are in some way biased, we want them to be able to see for themselves how they work. Bret, I very much doubt you will find anything to back up your wild claims. But if you're calling Glastnos a "faulty tool" how about you back that up with some real feedback? Brett,

Here’s how to get the source Code for the Glastnos application:

You can download the source code of our testing tool as a tarball or via anonymous SVN:

* You can download the latest version of Glasnost here: glasnost-1.2.tgz
* The latest version of our Glasnost tool is always available from anonymous SVN. You can check it out using the following command:

svn checkout https://svn.mpi-sb.mpg.de/NS/glasnost/

This will create a directory called glasnost and fill it with the Glasnost source code.

We are interested in your feedback. If you want to report a bug or contribute a patch, please contact us.

***

All tools on the http://www.MeasurementLab.net platform are open source — we want people to be able to look under the hood, make improvements and add functionality. For detractors who state that they are in some way biased, we want them to be able to see for themselves how they work.

Bret, I very much doubt you will find anything to back up your wild claims. But if you’re calling Glastnos a “faulty tool” how about you back that up with some real feedback?

]]> By: Esme Vos http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/01/28/find-out-if-your-isp-is-a-bad-isp-with-glasnost/#comment-37640 Esme Vos Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:49:52 +0000 http://www.muniwireless.com/?p=9900#comment-37640 Brett, You have not stated exactly how Glasnost is "bad" and why it's a propaganda tool. I distrust ISPs. I distrust them because for years they've been lying to us. They don't tell us they're doing funny things to our bits so here comes Glasnost with a tool to bring all these nefarious practices to light and suddenly you call them propaganda. Well, I'm afraid the ISPs have been feeding us with their version of propaganda for so long. Note please: there are a number of good, honest ISPs. I don't want to paint the entire ISP world as bad. I have had very good experiences with some ISPs in Amsterdam and they've been wonderful. Brett,

You have not stated exactly how Glasnost is “bad” and why it’s a propaganda tool. I distrust ISPs. I distrust them because for years they’ve been lying to us. They don’t tell us they’re doing funny things to our bits so here comes Glasnost with a tool to bring all these nefarious practices to light and suddenly you call them propaganda. Well, I’m afraid the ISPs have been feeding us with their version of propaganda for so long.

Note please: there are a number of good, honest ISPs. I don’t want to paint the entire ISP world as bad. I have had very good experiences with some ISPs in Amsterdam and they’ve been wonderful.

]]> By: Brett Glass http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/01/28/find-out-if-your-isp-is-a-bad-isp-with-glasnost/#comment-37639 Brett Glass Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:44:52 +0000 http://www.muniwireless.com/?p=9900#comment-37639 There are very few "bad" ISPs, but Glasnost is a very bad application. It doesn't work on many ISPs' networks, especially ones that are reasonably secure against hackers and P2P pirates. NDT likewise underreports bandwidth, locks up, and reports inaccurate results. These aren't scientific measurement tools; they're propaganda tools -- designed to find fault with ISPs' networks as an excuse for the imposition of regulation of the Internet. Google is in favor of such regulation; that's why it's promoting these faulty tools. There are very few “bad” ISPs, but Glasnost is a very bad application. It doesn’t work on many ISPs’ networks, especially ones that are reasonably secure against hackers and P2P pirates. NDT likewise underreports bandwidth, locks up, and reports inaccurate results.

These aren’t scientific measurement tools; they’re propaganda tools — designed to find fault with ISPs’ networks as an excuse for the imposition of regulation of the Internet. Google is in favor of such regulation; that’s why it’s promoting these faulty tools.

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