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	<title>Comments on: Ultimate Christmas bargain: Philadelphia to buy citywide WiFi network for $2M</title>
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		<title>By: Ken DiPietro</title>
		<link>http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/12/16/philadelphia-to-buy-citywide-wifi-network-for-2m/#comment-40084</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken DiPietro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

The Current Owners were given the network along with $1.25 million in cash. The City of Philadelphia is now buying the network for $2 million and I believe the current owners get to keep the existing fiber backbone.

So, now that you know all the facts, exactly how much were you thinking of betting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>The Current Owners were given the network along with $1.25 million in cash. The City of Philadelphia is now buying the network for $2 million and I believe the current owners get to keep the existing fiber backbone.</p>
<p>So, now that you know all the facts, exactly how much were you thinking of betting?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/12/16/philadelphia-to-buy-citywide-wifi-network-for-2m/#comment-40053</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet the current owners are not going to make a dime off of the sale.  If you listened to any of the EarthLink earnings calls, these networks cost a bundle to run.   They have likely lost money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet the current owners are not going to make a dime off of the sale.  If you listened to any of the EarthLink earnings calls, these networks cost a bundle to run.   They have likely lost money.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken DiPietro</title>
		<link>http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/12/16/philadelphia-to-buy-citywide-wifi-network-for-2m/#comment-40041</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken DiPietro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And backing up Esme&#039;s assertion that WiFi is critical to cell phone users is this article from Cellular News that states, &quot;Wi-Fi Access Accounts for a Quarter of Smartphone Internet Traffic&quot;
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/41163.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And backing up Esme&#8217;s assertion that WiFi is critical to cell phone users is this article from Cellular News that states, &#8220;Wi-Fi Access Accounts for a Quarter of Smartphone Internet Traffic&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.cellular-news.com/story/41163.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.cellular-news.com/story/41163.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ken DiPietro</title>
		<link>http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/12/16/philadelphia-to-buy-citywide-wifi-network-for-2m/#comment-40039</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken DiPietro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m liking the $1.25 million that Earthlink &quot;gave&quot; to have the network taken off their hands now generating another $2 million for the owner of the network. In addition, there seems to be a fiber component to this deal that the City of Philadelphia isn&#039;t purchasing for their money.

As to the estimate that the city would have to spend $30 million more to replace the network, I can only wonder where that number came from. I remember a qualified business offering to build out this network for $5 million - and that was years ago, when the equipment was significantly more expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m liking the $1.25 million that Earthlink &#8220;gave&#8221; to have the network taken off their hands now generating another $2 million for the owner of the network. In addition, there seems to be a fiber component to this deal that the City of Philadelphia isn&#8217;t purchasing for their money.</p>
<p>As to the estimate that the city would have to spend $30 million more to replace the network, I can only wonder where that number came from. I remember a qualified business offering to build out this network for $5 million &#8211; and that was years ago, when the equipment was significantly more expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: WiFi Gadfly</title>
		<link>http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/12/16/philadelphia-to-buy-citywide-wifi-network-for-2m/#comment-40024</link>
		<dc:creator>WiFi Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Esme,

The purpose of public safety networks is not so that you and other consumers can connect with your iPhone :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esme,</p>
<p>The purpose of public safety networks is not so that you and other consumers can connect with your iPhone <img src='http://www.muniwireless.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Esme Vos</title>
		<link>http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/12/16/philadelphia-to-buy-citywide-wifi-network-for-2m/#comment-40020</link>
		<dc:creator>Esme Vos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until a WiMAX chip shows up in the iPhone, WiMAX will remain a niche technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until a WiMAX chip shows up in the iPhone, WiMAX will remain a niche technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/12/16/philadelphia-to-buy-citywide-wifi-network-for-2m/#comment-40018</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are buying the network for public safety systems and surveillance.   They were going to build tower sites anyway and got a sweetheart deal.   They also have a very good shot at getting wi-fi to actually work in the public spaces as they are not determined to put it into everyone&#039;s home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are buying the network for public safety systems and surveillance.   They were going to build tower sites anyway and got a sweetheart deal.   They also have a very good shot at getting wi-fi to actually work in the public spaces as they are not determined to put it into everyone&#8217;s home.</p>
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		<title>By: Bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/12/16/philadelphia-to-buy-citywide-wifi-network-for-2m/#comment-40017</link>
		<dc:creator>Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WiMax to WiFi hotspots are in the works now.
WiMax would be for backhaul which where most citywide deployment need help.

Clear is here and to not use them one can is just poor planning.

Clear will bring us MANY smaller networks to towns / cities who would not be able to pull off a network using telco / cable companies.

Clear has stated they not only allow sharing they will help do it (via the WiMax to WiFi AP&#039;s.

cox / google / sprint / comcast are all working on WiMax phones...WiMax is here and it will only grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WiMax to WiFi hotspots are in the works now.<br />
WiMax would be for backhaul which where most citywide deployment need help.</p>
<p>Clear is here and to not use them one can is just poor planning.</p>
<p>Clear will bring us MANY smaller networks to towns / cities who would not be able to pull off a network using telco / cable companies.</p>
<p>Clear has stated they not only allow sharing they will help do it (via the WiMax to WiFi AP&#8217;s.</p>
<p>cox / google / sprint / comcast are all working on WiMax phones&#8230;WiMax is here and it will only grow.</p>
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		<title>By: Esme Vos</title>
		<link>http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/12/16/philadelphia-to-buy-citywide-wifi-network-for-2m/#comment-40014</link>
		<dc:creator>Esme Vos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How exactly do you propose to connect an iPhone to Clearwire&#039;s WiMAX network? Nearly all smartphones, netbooks and laptops contain WiFi chips, not WiMAX.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How exactly do you propose to connect an iPhone to Clearwire&#8217;s WiMAX network? Nearly all smartphones, netbooks and laptops contain WiFi chips, not WiMAX.</p>
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		<title>By: WiFi Gadfly</title>
		<link>http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/12/16/philadelphia-to-buy-citywide-wifi-network-for-2m/#comment-40013</link>
		<dc:creator>WiFi Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another silly decision by Philly. Better to take that money and negotiate a deal with Clearwire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another silly decision by Philly. Better to take that money and negotiate a deal with Clearwire.</p>
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