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		<title>By: New standard simplifies cellular to Wi-Fi offloading &#171; Mobile.BlogNotions - Thoughts from Industry Experts</title>
		<link>http://www.muniwireless.com/2010/02/19/will-wifi-rescue-3g/#comment-43823</link>
		<dc:creator>New standard simplifies cellular to Wi-Fi offloading &#171; Mobile.BlogNotions - Thoughts from Industry Experts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of service for public Wi-Fi networks. The Wi-Fi Alliance hotspot program will also ease the handoff of cellular traffic to Wi-Fi networks, which carriers have been increasingly interested in as users of smartphones and tablets utilize [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of service for public Wi-Fi networks. The Wi-Fi Alliance hotspot program will also ease the handoff of cellular traffic to Wi-Fi networks, which carriers have been increasingly interested in as users of smartphones and tablets utilize [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Laz Sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laz Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 15:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHITE SPACE WiFi - 

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/206071/fcc_approves_white_space_wifi_on_steroids.html

FCC Approves White Space &quot;Wi-Fi on Steroids&quot;

By Tony Bradley, PCWorld

With a unanimous, bipartisan vote of the FCC commissioners, the unused television broadcast spectrum has been unleashed for use in wireless networking. Using the broadcast white space for wireless networks will usher in billions in investment and innovation, and could fundamentally change the nature of wireless networking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHITE SPACE WiFi &#8211; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/206071/fcc_approves_white_space_wifi_on_steroids.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/206071/fcc_approves_white_space_wifi_on_steroids.html</a></p>
<p>FCC Approves White Space &#8220;Wi-Fi on Steroids&#8221;</p>
<p>By Tony Bradley, PCWorld</p>
<p>With a unanimous, bipartisan vote of the FCC commissioners, the unused television broadcast spectrum has been unleashed for use in wireless networking. Using the broadcast white space for wireless networks will usher in billions in investment and innovation, and could fundamentally change the nature of wireless networking.</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>peter,

who are you?  write to me at thejoff@gmail.com?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>peter,</p>
<p>who are you?  write to me at <a href="mailto:thejoff@gmail.com">thejoff@gmail.com</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wondering why this attention- any attention- is being given to private companies making vast profits?  AT&amp;T et al are savvy businesses.  Let them figure it out on their own and leave, please leave, the locally owned WiFi networks alone.  That is the answer.  I believe that smaller is better.  When people sign up at my humble company for instance they actually get what they pay for and not &quot;up to&quot; speeds.  People forget that AT&amp;T etc. are not into business to make their clients happy- they are in business to make their investors happy period and their goal is to grow once more into the monopoly they once were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering why this attention- any attention- is being given to private companies making vast profits?  AT&amp;T et al are savvy businesses.  Let them figure it out on their own and leave, please leave, the locally owned WiFi networks alone.  That is the answer.  I believe that smaller is better.  When people sign up at my humble company for instance they actually get what they pay for and not &#8220;up to&#8221; speeds.  People forget that AT&amp;T etc. are not into business to make their clients happy- they are in business to make their investors happy period and their goal is to grow once more into the monopoly they once were.</p>
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		<title>By: David Callisch</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Callisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 01:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>more on offloading data from 3G networks at http://www.theruckusroom.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more on offloading data from 3G networks at <a href="http://www.theruckusroom.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.theruckusroom.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth R. Carter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenneth R. Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 20:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Esme,

This is a very interesting topic. For years, the conventional wisdom has been that Wi-Fi is a disruptive technology and presents a competitive challenge to conventional mobile networks. The truth is that Wi-Fi (as a proxy for unlicensed operation) may offer some opportunities for competition, but it is more of a complementary technology than a disruptive one. Using licensed spectrum, carriers can always offer more robust, secure and reliable networks than Wi-Fi. I have recently read that some of the new Wi-Fi networks can offer five nines reliability (99.999%), but even so they will always have to content with a higher probability of interference. Neither licensed nor unlicensed operation holds an absolute advantage over the other.  However, there is the chance for carriers to offer an entry level service and a premium service, or a portable and a truly mobile service.  

I, however, disagree that a network of unlicensed radio equipment is some sort of natural monopoly, esthetics be damned. Granted, due to lower power and less in building penetration smaller sizes are cell and more network equipment is needed to provide unlicensed networks. But, this does not necessarily mean that there will be an antenna attached to every lamppost or traffic light. Even so, overbuilding networks is inherently a good thing.  We want to build competition into the access infrastructure.  To the extent that overbuilding is not economically viable, roaming arrangement between networks will eventually arise. In such cases and in smaller markets, a &quot;muni&quot; network can make a lot of sense.  

That said, an integrated Wi-Fi and LTE network is an interesting prospect.

Here is my take on the subject:  http://kennethrcarter.com/CoolStuff/2010/02/wi-fi-wi-not/

Ken Carter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esme,</p>
<p>This is a very interesting topic. For years, the conventional wisdom has been that Wi-Fi is a disruptive technology and presents a competitive challenge to conventional mobile networks. The truth is that Wi-Fi (as a proxy for unlicensed operation) may offer some opportunities for competition, but it is more of a complementary technology than a disruptive one. Using licensed spectrum, carriers can always offer more robust, secure and reliable networks than Wi-Fi. I have recently read that some of the new Wi-Fi networks can offer five nines reliability (99.999%), but even so they will always have to content with a higher probability of interference. Neither licensed nor unlicensed operation holds an absolute advantage over the other.  However, there is the chance for carriers to offer an entry level service and a premium service, or a portable and a truly mobile service.  </p>
<p>I, however, disagree that a network of unlicensed radio equipment is some sort of natural monopoly, esthetics be damned. Granted, due to lower power and less in building penetration smaller sizes are cell and more network equipment is needed to provide unlicensed networks. But, this does not necessarily mean that there will be an antenna attached to every lamppost or traffic light. Even so, overbuilding networks is inherently a good thing.  We want to build competition into the access infrastructure.  To the extent that overbuilding is not economically viable, roaming arrangement between networks will eventually arise. In such cases and in smaller markets, a &#8220;muni&#8221; network can make a lot of sense.  </p>
<p>That said, an integrated Wi-Fi and LTE network is an interesting prospect.</p>
<p>Here is my take on the subject:  <a href="http://kennethrcarter.com/CoolStuff/2010/02/wi-fi-wi-not/" rel="nofollow">http://kennethrcarter.com/CoolStuff/2010/02/wi-fi-wi-not/</a></p>
<p>Ken Carter</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Glapa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Glapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick word to share the perspectives we&#039;re gaining on this here at Ruckus -- where we&#039;ve been working with mobile operators on 3G offload via hotspots for the last couple years, and where we&#039;re seeing *very* substantial acceleration of operator activity in this category over the past few months.  Key findings to date:  (1) many operators are fast-tracking plans to use more Wi-Fi in both indoor and outdoor modes, in the high-traffic urban areas you mention, so stay tuned, (2) the interference issue is actually more than a red herring in those urban environments already busy with Wi-Fi in many forms -- even with the additional 5 GHz channels -- and mobile operators are taking this very seriously.  [Not to turn this into too much of an advertisement, but we have active interference rejection capabilities the other guys don&#039;t, so we address this known problem head-on rather than just asserting it&#039;s not one], and (3) regarding your question of build v. partner, there are currently disadvantages to shared networks in terms of support for a seamless subscriber and operator experience (which requires good client provisioning, authentication, security, and control) that are motivating build in many cases -- don&#039;t forget that the mobile operators already have lots of points of presence in these urban environments (their existing sites) that offer a good head start on the mounting assets dimension.

Generally, we&#039;re finding mobile operators moving to use every tool they have at their disposal -- more spectrum, LTE sooner, traffic management, tiered plans, femtocells (usually in a controlled way, rather than a broad and random consumer play), and Wi-Fi -- because the smart-phone data traffic issue is growing so rapidly worse, and no single tool (including LTE) will solve the problem all by itself.

Cheers,

Steven Glapa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick word to share the perspectives we&#8217;re gaining on this here at Ruckus &#8212; where we&#8217;ve been working with mobile operators on 3G offload via hotspots for the last couple years, and where we&#8217;re seeing *very* substantial acceleration of operator activity in this category over the past few months.  Key findings to date:  (1) many operators are fast-tracking plans to use more Wi-Fi in both indoor and outdoor modes, in the high-traffic urban areas you mention, so stay tuned, (2) the interference issue is actually more than a red herring in those urban environments already busy with Wi-Fi in many forms &#8212; even with the additional 5 GHz channels &#8212; and mobile operators are taking this very seriously.  [Not to turn this into too much of an advertisement, but we have active interference rejection capabilities the other guys don't, so we address this known problem head-on rather than just asserting it's not one], and (3) regarding your question of build v. partner, there are currently disadvantages to shared networks in terms of support for a seamless subscriber and operator experience (which requires good client provisioning, authentication, security, and control) that are motivating build in many cases &#8212; don&#8217;t forget that the mobile operators already have lots of points of presence in these urban environments (their existing sites) that offer a good head start on the mounting assets dimension.</p>
<p>Generally, we&#8217;re finding mobile operators moving to use every tool they have at their disposal &#8212; more spectrum, LTE sooner, traffic management, tiered plans, femtocells (usually in a controlled way, rather than a broad and random consumer play), and Wi-Fi &#8212; because the smart-phone data traffic issue is growing so rapidly worse, and no single tool (including LTE) will solve the problem all by itself.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Steven Glapa</p>
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		<title>By: David C allisch</title>
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		<dc:creator>David C allisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>more on offloading data from 3G networks:

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		<title>By: Esme Vos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esme Vos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AT&amp;T&#039;s network problems also affect people who have only a voice subscription. While I mention AT&amp;T here, it&#039;s not just AT&amp;T having these problems. Mobile operators around the world are grappling with the same issues. What baffles me is how long it takes for AT&amp;T to improve the service. Example: at the Ferry Building in SF, which is very crowded on weekends and even weekdays with tourists and locals, AT&amp;T&#039;s service is terrible. It&#039;s very slow. This isn&#039;t a location in the Santa Cruz mountains, it&#039;s right by downtown and the Financial District. This problem has been going on for at least a couple of years. I suspect AT&amp;T has known about this for a long time. If they can&#039;t even improve service in downtown SF and around the Financial District, it&#039;s hard for me to see how they can improve it throughout SF and in other large US cities any time soon (i.e. in the next 3 years). Maybe they&#039;re waiting to deploy LTE . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT&#038;T&#8217;s network problems also affect people who have only a voice subscription. While I mention AT&#038;T here, it&#8217;s not just AT&#038;T having these problems. Mobile operators around the world are grappling with the same issues. What baffles me is how long it takes for AT&#038;T to improve the service. Example: at the Ferry Building in SF, which is very crowded on weekends and even weekdays with tourists and locals, AT&#038;T&#8217;s service is terrible. It&#8217;s very slow. This isn&#8217;t a location in the Santa Cruz mountains, it&#8217;s right by downtown and the Financial District. This problem has been going on for at least a couple of years. I suspect AT&#038;T has known about this for a long time. If they can&#8217;t even improve service in downtown SF and around the Financial District, it&#8217;s hard for me to see how they can improve it throughout SF and in other large US cities any time soon (i.e. in the next 3 years). Maybe they&#8217;re waiting to deploy LTE . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Suter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Suter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Esme;

The questions as to whether telcos are/aren&#039;t already doing so is an interesting one. Looked at offload via an outdoor lens, I would agree that uptake is underwhelming, but I think you also need to look at their indoor deployments. Every iPhone user sitting in Starbucks and using Wi-Fi is a user that&#039;s not on the 3G network. In this respect, Wi-Fi Hot Spots are also a key part of the offload story, and one that is often overlooked. By the same token, enterprise and home APs accomplish the same thing, at least from an AT&amp;T perspective, and cost them nothing per bit.

The challenges to outdoor Wi-Fi deployment haven&#039;t really changed. Site acquisition, power and backhaul are all required, making urban deployments a challenge. Privately controlled venues, like sports stadiums, arenas, campuses, etc., are far better candidate locations as a result (or at least locations with less friction to deploy). This is also one of the reasons that Cablevision is able to deploy so readily - they control the infrastructure. Overhead cable strand is powered, wired backhaul, at the same height as light poles and runs in front of commercial, high traffic locations throughout their footprint.

Keep up the good work...

That&#039;s my .02!

Martin Suter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esme;</p>
<p>The questions as to whether telcos are/aren&#8217;t already doing so is an interesting one. Looked at offload via an outdoor lens, I would agree that uptake is underwhelming, but I think you also need to look at their indoor deployments. Every iPhone user sitting in Starbucks and using Wi-Fi is a user that&#8217;s not on the 3G network. In this respect, Wi-Fi Hot Spots are also a key part of the offload story, and one that is often overlooked. By the same token, enterprise and home APs accomplish the same thing, at least from an AT&amp;T perspective, and cost them nothing per bit.</p>
<p>The challenges to outdoor Wi-Fi deployment haven&#8217;t really changed. Site acquisition, power and backhaul are all required, making urban deployments a challenge. Privately controlled venues, like sports stadiums, arenas, campuses, etc., are far better candidate locations as a result (or at least locations with less friction to deploy). This is also one of the reasons that Cablevision is able to deploy so readily &#8211; they control the infrastructure. Overhead cable strand is powered, wired backhaul, at the same height as light poles and runs in front of commercial, high traffic locations throughout their footprint.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work&#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my .02!</p>
<p>Martin Suter</p>
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